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05.08.2015 - 08:14


To prove that Serbians are still living in wish of warring and they still want to realize their criminal dream of making Big Serbia.

Vojislav Šešelj (leader of Serbian radical party) said Yesterday:
'This war was only the first half, our sons and grandsons will bring back RSK'

Even it is 21st century, they are still living the old dream. Crazy people who just want more victims just because of their hate on Croatians who won the Croatian Independence War.
Just take a simple comparison which I made for you:
- I posted a thread about humanity and professionalism of Croatian soldiers DURING WAR which was started by Serbian rebels on Croatian land
- And now I am posting a thread about inhumanity and lunatic ideas by Serbian politicans DURING PEACE in 21st century.


For all publicity who are reading this, please, stay away from Tito's and Serbian delusion and plagiarizing of history.
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05.08.2015 - 08:59
Waiting for Bane to upvote you (since only you vote each other haha)

Stop making new topics, stop spaming forum... You became new unleashed, spaming forum with 100 topics and insulting everyone who oppose you in conversation.

p.s.
you are third from Croatia who post stuff from Yugoslav Civil War and WW2 in Yugoslavia on this forum since 2010.... Will all croats spam forum with same topic for eternity?
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05.08.2015 - 09:19
Napisao Skanderbeg, 05.08.2015 at 08:59

Waiting for Bane to upvote you (since only you vote each other haha)

Stop making new topics, stop spaming forum... You became new unleashed, spaming forum with 100 topics and insulting everyone who oppose you in conversation.

p.s.
you are third from Croatia who post stuff from Yugoslav Civil War and WW2 in Yugoslavia on this forum since 2010.... Will all croats spam forum with same topic for eternity?

Since you said this thing to Goblin before few weeks, it looks that our upvotes really hurt you. To be clear, I am upvoting only those things:
- Truth
- Funny pictures
- Smart commenrs
Now guess why I never upvoted you


I insulted no one with my threads, so your words like that are just desparate try for covering the real truth again. Also, I explained why I made them. It is made so people dont see only the fake side of certain story made on Tito's own opinions, feelings and numbers. I am giving them the truth because you are the one who is destroying the truth.
But I understand you, your whole genocide nation is doing same thing with their own history, so I cannot blame only individuals like you..... God, I feel so bad for those people.....

ps.
I dont write about Yugoslav Civil War, I write about Croatian Independence War and I will do that as long as you are catching on them and ruining the real truth.

Say 'Hello' to my hook, you little haringa
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05.08.2015 - 10:39
Just because you call it 'Croatian War for independence' doesnt make it true. Croatian fascists were armed and supported by US and EU to start the war and destroy Yugoslavia, which they did and then they ethnically cleansed half of Serbian population in Croatia to complete the task started 50 years ago in WW2 where 1 million is genocided.

http://cryptome.org/us-op-storm.htm

Croatian fascist/terrorists attacked legal army of recognized country from whole world, bringing death and suffer to all towns and villages. Economy collapsed, crime rised and US forced UN to put sanctions on one part of Yugoslavia called Serbia which had nothing to do with the war and atrocities made by the West.

Your lies are the worst raping of history ive seen.
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05.08.2015 - 13:39
I think it's best for me if i don't believe any of this... goes for croat's side, and jedi's.. there is always two sides to every story.

cheers
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05.08.2015 - 14:04
Napisao theFuehrer, 05.08.2015 at 13:39

I think it's best for me if i don't believe any of this... goes for croat's side, and jedi's.. there is always two sides to every story.

cheers


Why you dont go than both sides in theory that Earth is a flat / planet ?
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05.08.2015 - 14:15
Napisao Croat, 05.08.2015 at 14:04

Why you dont go than both sides in theory that Earth is a flat / planet ?


Croat, this is history you guys are debating about.. you guys are talking like you can actually prove any thing.
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05.08.2015 - 14:32
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Napisao Skanderbeg, 05.08.2015 at 10:39

Just because you call it 'Croatian War for independence' doesnt make it true. Croatian fascists were armed and supported by US and EU to start the war and destroy Yugoslavia, which they did and then they ethnically cleansed half of Serbian population in Croatia to complete the task started 50 years ago in WW2 where 1 million is genocided.

http://cryptome.org/us-op-storm.htm

Croatian fascist/terrorists attacked legal army of recognized country from whole world, bringing death and suffer to all towns and villages. Economy collapsed, crime rised and US forced UN to put sanctions on one part of Yugoslavia called Serbia which had nothing to do with the war and atrocities made by the West.

Your lies are the worst raping of history ive seen.

All people that want independence must have it.
They wanted it,i just dont agree that they needed to banish 250k serbs for their independence.
Actually,i would be okay with their independence war if they didnt do operation"Storm"
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05.08.2015 - 14:33
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Napisao theFuehrer, 05.08.2015 at 14:15

Napisao Croat, 05.08.2015 at 14:04

Why you dont go than both sides in theory that Earth is a flat / planet ?


Croat, this is history you guys are debating about.. you guys are talking like you can actually prove any thing.


you could debate croat a bit however what jedi is writing is a utter joke,its not even relativly close to truth.
he calls croats in the 90s fascist yet again serbs were mass supporting chetniks (serbian nazis that root back to wwii)
he said croats attacked the legal army (JNA/YPA) however the same legal army was at that point mad eup of 100% serb/mne majority,12/14 generals were serbs,all others have already left the army and the JNA was working together with chetniks to relize the greater serbia dream
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05.08.2015 - 14:36
Serbia should go where it came from, russia
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05.08.2015 - 14:39
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And i wan tot tell some things about Seselj(president of radical party)
He is idiot that was 12 years in Scheveningen and after he left it started lying that he won against Scheveningen.
Serbians stopped dreaming about Greater Serbia long ago,and we showed that we stopped dreaming by last elections that showed little support to Radicals.
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05.08.2015 - 14:41
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Napisao AlBoZzZ, 05.08.2015 at 14:36

Serbia should go where it came from, russia

i actually agree if they trasnfer me to russia and give me their citizenship.
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05.08.2015 - 14:44
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Napisao Kromn, 05.08.2015 at 14:39

And i wan tot tell some things about Seselj(president of radical party)
He is idiot that was 12 years in Scheveningen and after he left it started lying that he won against Scheveningen.
Serbians stopped dreaming about Greater Serbia long ago,and we showed that we stopped dreaming by last elections that showed little support to Radicals.


seselj still has large support from serbian population (some sources say 20%) ,considering he said he will invade croatia again if had the chance to few months ago it shows serbs still dream of greater serbia
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05.08.2015 - 14:45
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Napisao Evic, 05.08.2015 at 14:44

Napisao Kromn, 05.08.2015 at 14:39

And i wan tot tell some things about Seselj(president of radical party)
He is idiot that was 12 years in Scheveningen and after he left it started lying that he won against Scheveningen.
Serbians stopped dreaming about Greater Serbia long ago,and we showed that we stopped dreaming by last elections that showed little support to Radicals.


seselj still has large support from serbian population (some sources say 20%) ,considering he said he will invade croatia again if had the chance to few months ago it shows serbs still dream of greater serbia

his sources.not some,and he is telling that thats his sources XD
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05.08.2015 - 15:25
Napisao Evic, 05.08.2015 at 14:33

you could debate croat a bit however what jedi is writing is a utter joke,its not even relativly close to truth.


Since i was talking about Holocaust in Croatia, and you think its a joke i assume you are a holocaust denier.


Napisao Evic, 05.08.2015 at 14:33

he calls croats in the 90s fascist yet again serbs were mass supporting chetniks (serbian nazis that root back to wwii)


Your first lie: i dont call all croatians fascists, i said there was created few fascist paramilitaries and political parties. You write lies to suits your goal.

Serbs didnt 'mass support' Chetniks in Yugoslav Civil War 1991-1995 because there was none. Chetniks are created in 19th century to combat Ottoman Empire in Europe. Serbs called them Chetniks, Bulgarians called them Hayduks and Greeks called them Andartes. But Rebel Forces in Yugoslav Civil War called Yugoslav Army and Serbian paramilitaries 'chetniks' because rebels were comprised of fascists and ultra-nationalists who hated Serbs. Chetniks existed in WW2 also where they fought Communists and Nazis alike. Later when Communists with help of Soviet spies started to get help from Allies which was meant for Chetniks, Chetniks allied Nazi Germany to fight Communism. But not all Chetniks, only 'Black Chetniks', they were extremist group which killed civilians during war and hated Croats and Communists. Other Chetniks called 'Yugoslav Army in the Fatherland' continue to fight Nazis and Communists, but less Nazis and more Communists because it was 1944 and Nazis were losing while Communists were winning and were about to conquer Yugoslavia.


Napisao Evic, 05.08.2015 at 14:33

he said croats attacked the legal army (JNA/YPA) however the same legal army was at that point mad eup of 100% serb/mne majority,12/14 generals were serbs,all others have already left the army and the JNA was working together with chetniks


Your second lie: Yugoslav Army was multiethnic, never ethnically 'pure'. It was comprised of Croats, Slovenians, Bosnian Turks, Serbs, Macedonians, Albanians, Hungarians from Northern Serbia and Montenegrins. Illegal extremist Croatian and Serbian paramilitaries were ethnically 'pure'.

Most of Yugoslav Army officers and generals were Croats and Bosnian Turks. Yugoslav General Staff was composed of 13 Generals = 11 Croats, Bosnian Turks, Montenegrins and only 2 of them Serbs. Which mean Serbs had minority in Officer Cadre and General Staff and couldnt make 'pro-serb' decisions.

General Staff was corrupted because it was set by Communist Party of Yugoslavia and many fascists inflitrated Party Ranks to get positions and command the country so they can destroy or lead it, depend how their Western Leaders order them to do. Order came to destroy Yugoslavia and start the war. Which Fascist groups did, and Yugoslav corrupted multiethnic leadership didnt do according the plan which led to prolonged war, collapse and many deaths.


Napisao Evic, 05.08.2015 at 14:33

to relize the greater serbia dream


Great Serbia is fascist myth. Serbs never had such plans (if you dont count criminals like Sesely and other illegal paramilitaries). Serbia had many chances to create 'Great Serbia' and passed every time. Because Serbia was victorious in WW1 with powerful allies of France, Italy, UK and United States. Woodrow Wilson proposed with UK and France accepted that Serbia should get Bosnia and Croatia as reward for contribution in WW1 and because large Serbian population live there so its normal to unite in one state. Serbia refused because it is not necessary, Croatian, Slovenian and Bosnian Muslim politicians proposed Yugoslavia and Serbia united with them as equal, not as dominate power. Serbia could just reject Yugoslav proposal and take territories as proposed by Great Powers, but it didnt.

Second time was in WW2; 600,000 Serbs joined Communist Partisans and not Chetniks. Communists wanted to recreate Yugoslavia with equal division of powers while Chetniks wanted to create Great Serbia (because Croats created Great Croatia). There were 1 million capable Serbs, military-able bodies, 600,000 of them joined Communists and only 150,000 joined Chetniks. Thats tells us that Serbs wanted Yugoslavia, to be friends with Croats and not to dominate Great Serbia. If they wanted Great Serbia they could just join Chetniks, have 500,000 soldiers and defeat both Nazis and Communists, wait for UK and US troops to arrive to protect them from USSR and create democratic capitalist state after the war while Croatia and Bosnia get nothing.

Third chance was in Yugoslav Civil War 1991-1995; There was 1 million capable military-able men in Serbia and 200,000 Serbs in Bosnia. And they didnt join paramilitaries or create serbian forces, only few hundreds fanatics joined paramilitaries and the rest are recruited by legal Yugoslav Army of legal recognized Yugoslav state. And of them only 100,000 recruited, not all 1,200,000 combat-ready. If they wanted Great Serbia, they could just loot Yugoslav Army bases, kill non-serb officers, take command, create Serbian Army and just go out on the streets, there wouldnt be invasion because it was Yugoslavia, Army was positioned all across the country, so they would just declare Great Serbia and kill Yugoslavia. Croatia and Bosnia would again lose and get nothing. Yet Serbs didnt do that because they dont want to.

This tell us alot about one nation. How good and humble it is. Thats why i like it. I dont like aggressive nations with imperialistic ambitions.
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05.08.2015 - 15:34
Napisao theFuehrer, 05.08.2015 at 14:15

Napisao Croat, 05.08.2015 at 14:04

Why you dont go than both sides in theory that Earth is a flat / planet ?


Croat, this is history you guys are debating about.. you guys are talking like you can actually prove any thing.


Same as you cannot prove that Earth is a flat by videos on Youtube (nothing against you, but I dont believe in that theory)
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05.08.2015 - 15:40
Napisao AlBoZzZ, 05.08.2015 at 14:36

Serbia should go where it came from, russia


Yes, there was debate about that between Serbian and Russian inteligentia. Because Serbs suffered greatly since creation of their state in the Balkan(500 years turkish occupation, 3 million serbs killed in 20th century only, 50 years of communism and american/european colonization afterwards), so plan to move to Russia and settle some far away uninhabited territory would suit both interests.



As we can see from this map, Serbia was the only non-nazi country, and it was conquered, while all other neighboring countries around Serbia were Nazis and allied Germany. It says alot about Serbia doesnt it, how large balls you should have to be encircled by blood-thirsty nazis and say No to them, and fight for freedom.

Suitable land would be Primorsky Krai in Russia, moderate temperature and climate, access to sea, rarely populated land, many arable hectares available, untouched nature is near, with many free animals and healthy air. Neighbors are allies and peaceful China and Korea, so trade with them can bring fortune. Not to mention South Korean and Japanese technology to obtain and Chinese infinite population-consumers to sell them products.



It would also be good to move to Russia and escape European brutality and oppression imposed by their 'Union'. Democracy is where people decide their interest, and we can see Europe does not work in the interest for their people. There are daily protests and demonstrations across Europe, people lose jobs, workers suicide to escape pressure and debt, European governments choking on debt, immigrant and crime rate rising and Europe is unable to cope with it. They use their armies for invasions and violence, killing innocent civilians in wars in Eastern and Southern Europe, Northern Africa and Middle East.

You can do that as well, move to your motherland Azerbaijan, just you wont have PPP market nearby or high-tech nations to learn from. Azerbaijan has still weak economy.
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05.08.2015 - 15:46
Napisao Skanderbeg, 05.08.2015 at 15:40


Tito is back in his element, somehow pro-serbian statements that make no sense whatsoever and are highly effective at confusing people, go Tito jedi go
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05.08.2015 - 16:12
Napisao Skanderbeg, 05.08.2015 at 15:40

Serbia was the only non-nazi country

Actually Serbs were the only country that had 2 movements that collaborated with the nazis:

• chetnicks ...that collaborated with Germans, Italians and even Croatian fascists
• Nedić troops ...that collaborated with the Germans, governing Serbia and killed almost entire Jewish population in Serbia

Serbs defying nazis... It was nothing more then a coupe orchestrated by the British and Serbs thinking that Hitler wouldn't attack...
and Belgrade taken by a squad of Waffen SS when their commander got drunk and said fuck it...


P.S. don't bother disapproving this things by talking about Croats... its fallacious arguing.
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05.08.2015 - 16:19
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As goblin said,belgrade taken by 6 german soldiers and you talk about the ballz you had? almoast all resistance in yugo was in dalmatia,lika and hezegovina,i dont see serbia in there.
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05.08.2015 - 16:25
Napisao Evic, 05.08.2015 at 16:19

almoast all resistance in yugo was in dalmatia,lika and hezegovina,i dont see serbia in there.

well truth be told most partisians in the begining were Serbs with Croats joining up against Italians when they took half of Dalmatia.
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05.08.2015 - 16:42
Napisao Tirpitz406, 05.08.2015 at 15:46

Tito is back in his element, somehow pro-serbian statements that make no sense whatsoever and are highly effective at confusing people, go Tito jedi go


You are lying again; how can pro-truth statements be pro-serbian? I also defend Vietnam, Congo, Russia, China, Brazil, South Africa and many more events which are truth but twisted by nazis, imperialists and conquerors. Does that make me pro-vietnamese, pro-congo, pro-brazilian?

You can simply say my ideology is Humanism and Pro-Life. I am against genocide and ethnic cleansing and use of violence to achieve goals but i am also not a pacifist if one ethnic groups is in danger and their enemy is using excessive violence. They have right to use violence as well to protect their lives but according to geneva convention and international law (Putin style).

But i know why you extract only one information from all point and say 'he is pro'serbian' so you can later say 'he is nationalist' and even later label me as 'fascist'. Thats the gradation you're taking. Because you are westerner, you are unable to be friendly and peaceful, you just have to be hateful and controntational



Napisao Goblin, 05.08.2015 at 16:12

Belgrade taken by a squad of Waffen SS when their commander got drunk and said fuck it...

Napisao Evic, 05.08.2015 at 16:19

As goblin said,belgrade taken by 6 german soldiers and you talk about the ballz you had? almoast all resistance in yugo was in dalmatia,lika and hezegovina,i dont see serbia in there.


Yes, Germans easily conquered Serbia and Yugoslavia because croatian fascists emerged from the underground and sabotaged Yugoslav Army, which lost logistics and lines of communication, supply, support and command. When one screw fall off - whole machine stop working. Bosnian Muslims and Croats comprised 2/3 of Yugoslav Army, so when they deserted only 1/3 Serbs left with holes in defence and lines so Yugoslavia lost in 5 days.

Historians debate that if there was no Yugoslavia but Kingdom of Serbia, with Serbian Army in WW2, it could fight like in WW1 agaisnt Austria where they get 3 great victories over 10 times stronger enemy with technological advantage. That would lead to US and UK landing in Greece, not Normandy and Communists would never get a grip on Balkan, Serbia would be capitalist ally of US and UK and Croatia would be split between Italy and Hungary.

But that mean Croats would suffer, so Serbs didnt do it. It was great victory for history.

50 years later Croatia ethnically cleanse 250,000 Serbs as gratitude, but thats another story
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05.08.2015 - 16:48
Napisao Croat, 05.08.2015 at 15:34

Same as you cannot prove that Earth is a flat by videos on Youtube (nothing against you, but I dont believe in that theory)


That is fine. We can agree to disagree.
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05.08.2015 - 18:27
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Tito do you seriously say that serbs could have somehow held off the wehrmacht? and no yugoslav royal army was not mad eup of mostly croats and muslems,it was made up of mostly serbs,first yugoslavia can better be called serboslavia where every orthodox citizen of yugo was asimilated as a serb (mostly romanian vlachs in krajina and bosnia) and bulgarians in south were renamed into macedonians ( plan was to ultimately asimilate them into serbs)
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Napisao Evic, 05.08.2015 at 18:27

Tito do you seriously say that serbs could have somehow held off the wehrmacht? and no yugoslav royal army was not mad eup of mostly croats and muslems,it was made up of mostly serbs,first yugoslavia can better be called serboslavia where every orthodox citizen of yugo was asimilated as a serb (mostly romanian vlachs in krajina and bosnia) and bulgarians in south were renamed into macedonians ( plan was to ultimately asimilate them into serbs)

Are you drunk?
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