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06.01.2021 - 14:48
 Sid (Administrator)
How disgraceful. The real extremists show their colors again. All because he can't concede an election he lost by so much.

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/krvh1f/megathread_us_capitol_locked_down_as_trump/
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06.01.2021 - 14:53
Imagine calling this an insurgency as most media's do
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06.01.2021 - 14:57
"Trump supporters clash with police"

Wow, looks like police aren't pawns of systemic racism
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06.01.2021 - 14:59
 Sid (Administrator)
Napisao JUGERS2, 06.01.2021 at 14:53

Imagine calling this an insurgency as most media's do

I'm not sure what would qualify as an insurgency in Kosovo but armed rioters using weapons to force their way to override democracy definitely qualifies as such in America.

Napisao Tribune Aquila, 06.01.2021 at 14:57

"Trump supporters clash with police"

Wow, looks like police aren't pawns of systemic racism

Not even relevant or the correct argument.
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06.01.2021 - 15:01
It's weird, because now that biden will be president. I don't see people walking around with biden hats and shirts. people are crazy.
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06.01.2021 - 15:02
Napisao Sid, 06.01.2021 at 14:59

Napisao JUGERS2, 06.01.2021 at 14:53

Imagine calling this an insurgency as most media's do

I'm not sure what would qualify as an insurgency in Kosovo but armed rioters using weapons to force their way to override democracy definitely qualifies as such in America.

What weapons? All i see is wooden sticks with flags or signs.
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06.01.2021 - 15:04
 Sid (Administrator)
Napisao JUGERS2, 06.01.2021 at 15:02

Napisao Sid, 06.01.2021 at 14:59

Napisao JUGERS2, 06.01.2021 at 14:53

Imagine calling this an insurgency as most media's do

I'm not sure what would qualify as an insurgency in Kosovo but armed rioters using weapons to force their way to override democracy definitely qualifies as such in America.

What weapons? All i see is wooden sticks with flags or signs.

People have been shot, police have been pepper sprayed and beaten. So far 5 taken to the hospital.
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06.01.2021 - 15:07
Napisao Sid, 06.01.2021 at 15:04

Napisao JUGERS2, 06.01.2021 at 15:02

Napisao Sid, 06.01.2021 at 14:59

Napisao JUGERS2, 06.01.2021 at 14:53

Imagine calling this an insurgency as most media's do

I'm not sure what would qualify as an insurgency in Kosovo but armed rioters using weapons to force their way to override democracy definitely qualifies as such in America.

What weapons? All i see is wooden sticks with flags or signs.

People have been shot, police have been pepper sprayed and beaten.

Seems more police brutality than an insurgency then. We call insurgency what we did Macedonia at 2001 i would like to know your definition of it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_insurgency_in_Macedonia
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06.01.2021 - 15:12
You want relevance?

You apply the same principle of my comment to your comment. Both are double standards from top to bottom.

To suggest that real extremists are exclusive to this group puts aside the human concept of observation. Nancy Pelosi's home was vandalized just last week by leftist extremists, they are extremists, too, there are plenty of them and are just as bad as any extremist. You're applying two standards of extremism. Leftists have done this and much worse, and you're suggesting they aren't real extremists, while the groups at issue today are.
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06.01.2021 - 16:18
 Dave (Administrator)
Napisao Sid, 06.01.2021 at 14:48

How disgraceful. The real extremists show their colors again. All because he can't concede an election he lost by so much.

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/krvh1f/megathread_us_capitol_locked_down_as_trump/


Where were you when leftist extremists were rioting, looting, burning police stations, and shooting Trump supporters just a few months ago?

Its insulting to categorize "Trump loyalists", which includes myself, as the "real extremists". Especially when not long ago it was the BLM/Antifa extremists who were out there and you were silent.
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06.01.2021 - 16:41
 Sid (Administrator)
Napisao Dave, 06.01.2021 at 16:18

Napisao Sid, 06.01.2021 at 14:48

How disgraceful. The real extremists show their colors again. All because he can't concede an election he lost by so much.

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/krvh1f/megathread_us_capitol_locked_down_as_trump/


Where were you when leftist extremists were rioting, looting, burning police stations, and shooting Trump supporters just a few months ago?

Its insulting to categorize "Trump loyalists", which includes myself, as the "real extremists". Especially when not long ago it was the BLM/Antifa extremists who were out there and you were silent.

I was in the same place as you, I don't think any violence is the answer. They should all be arrested and prosecuted.

Antifa extremists are just as bad but they could never have hoped to try to undermine our democracy the way Trump Loyalists (mostly just trump) have in these past months. Just listen to the president's call with GA secretary... It doesn't get much more clear than that. There was and is still zero evidence of any large scale fraud because if there were, one of the several states accused would have found it. Trump had every right to pursue those claims and he did, but that's not enough.
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06.01.2021 - 16:49
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06.01.2021 - 16:55
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06.01.2021 - 17:02
Napisao Rock Lee, 06.01.2021 at 16:24

I love Sid. He adheres to real courage and integrity.

As for Sean's arguements. Such behaviour should not be explained merely by "extremism". They prioritised their desire for control over democracy over their society and over their nation. No matter how you dislike liberals do not make execuses for them.

This is not just an American issue. Populists in Israel and many other nations are proving themselves as traitors. Deep inside you all know they caused damage forever.


What are you on about? I'm the one with courage and integrity. You mischaracterized everything. I said leftist extremists are just as bad as any extremist, I never said that the groups at issue today aren't extremists. When Sid referred to "real extremists" that implies opposition to "not-real extremists"... and the reference is quite obvious.

And as for SID, wherever he is lurking, it should be said that America is not a democracy and the electoral college is not a democratic process. It is a representative process and Trump supporters feel as though their interests aren't being represented by these federal politicians. These patriots are not violating democracy, they are being patriots and standing up for their interests in our representative Republic
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06.01.2021 - 17:59
Napisao Sid, 06.01.2021 at 14:48

How disgraceful. The real extremists show their colors again. All because he can't concede an election he lost by so much.

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/krvh1f/megathread_us_capitol_locked_down_as_trump/

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06.01.2021 - 18:22
Napisao Tribune Aquila, 06.01.2021 at 17:02


What are you on about? I'm the one with courage and integrity. You mischaracterized everything. I said leftist extremists are just as bad as any extremist, I never said that the groups at issue today aren't extremists. When Sid referred to "real extremists" that implies opposition to "not-real extremists"... and the reference is quite obvious.

And as for SID, wherever he is lurking, it should be said that America is not a democracy and the electoral college is not a democratic process. It is a representative process and Trump supporters feel as though their interests aren't being represented by these federal politicians. These patriots are not violating democracy, they are being patriots and standing up for their interests in our representative Republic

I have removed my comment earlier becauae I have desided that I should focous on studying and not being dragged into political debates. Also I began to feel like I am aiming many feelungs about local politicians toward foreign politicians and it's not exactly fair.

You misunderstood me. My point was not about who is extremist and who is not. It is OK to have bizzare opinions as long as you care about the general well being of your society. Those traitors are no patriots. 50 years from now no one of them is going to tell his grandchildren about the time he broke into parliment and has threathened state represantives. They all know they have damaged society tonight and they know they fought for themselves against their own people. And if you still care about this nation you should not justify theor actions.

I may sound like a hater but I am saying it as a friend.
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07.01.2021 - 05:03
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07.01.2021 - 10:05
And this was predicted by The Simpsons?
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07.01.2021 - 10:14
I mean like, BLM protesters were alot worse then this and media said nothing about that
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07.01.2021 - 15:01
Napisao Rock Lee, 06.01.2021 at 18:22

Napisao Tribune Aquila, 06.01.2021 at 17:02


What are you on about? I'm the one with courage and integrity. You mischaracterized everything. I said leftist extremists are just as bad as any extremist, I never said that the groups at issue today aren't extremists. When Sid referred to "real extremists" that implies opposition to "not-real extremists"... and the reference is quite obvious.

And as for SID, wherever he is lurking, it should be said that America is not a democracy and the electoral college is not a democratic process. It is a representative process and Trump supporters feel as though their interests aren't being represented by these federal politicians. These patriots are not violating democracy, they are being patriots and standing up for their interests in our representative Republic

I have removed my comment earlier becauae I have desided that I should focous on studying and not being dragged into political debates. Also I began to feel like I am aiming many feelungs about local politicians toward foreign politicians and it's not exactly fair.

You misunderstood me. My point was not about who is extremist and who is not. It is OK to have bizzare opinions as long as you care about the general well being of your society. Those traitors are no patriots. 50 years from now no one of them is going to tell his grandchildren about the time he broke into parliment and has threathened state represantives. They all know they have damaged society tonight and they know they fought for themselves against their own people. And if you still care about this nation you should not justify theor actions.

I may sound like a hater but I am saying it as a friend.


Dude Sean Spicer is right, democracy doesn't exist in the U.S. Congressmen represent the State as an institution, not the American people. Even Trump was unable to end all wars and ban big Tech because there are higher ups (the 1%) who don't allow it. Wanna bet a Bernie Sanders presidency would be the biggest dissapointment to every one of his supporters? He would be called a sellout in the first 100 days.

Donald Trump is not the river leading to the Civil War but the dam. For the first time in a very long time, the silent majority on the left and the right feel like no one is listening to them. When Obama was President, the progressives felt like he understood them- he went to the same schools they went, watched the same shows and read the same papers. Biden isn't an Ivy League graduate, doesn't read the Financial Times, and is the definition of the swamp. As for Trump supporters, the media is bashing them, liberals are bashing them, and now they will have at least 2 years of swamp creature Republicans trying to convince them that they are concerned about them from their million dollar mansions. And don't get me started with progressives- Biden isn't a socialist and they know that. He won't pass Medicare for All, he won't eliminate college debt and he sure won't end the wars.

Trump said something that the 1% did not like in the smoke-filled backroom doors of an undisclosed meeting. The 1% said enough is enough and rigged the election. Presidents are just figureheads of the State- they are replaceable mouthpieces for the ones really in power.
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07.01.2021 - 15:17
The USA stages almost all military coups against other countries and other people's choice, Biden himself supervised the military coup in Egypt, in 2013 America tasted just a little bit of what it does to the others.
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07.01.2021 - 15:25
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Napisao Fatcheek, 07.01.2021 at 10:14

I mean like, BLM protesters were alot worse then this and media said nothing about that


No, they weren't,that's just an outright lie. BLM protests never assault journalists, which this one did, and a study on all the BLM protest shows that no actual violence happen at BLM protests until the police or the counter protest showed up.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/10/16/this-summers-black-lives-matter-protesters-were-overwhelming-peaceful-our-research-finds/

Whenever a BLM or antifa protest happens, you have thousands of armed cops fully outfitted in military gear ready. The crackdown from the police is about a thousand times worse. People get beaten, shot, tear gased, and dragged off to unmarked cars. This is the typical police response to a BLM or antifa protest.


And this is the police response to storming the capital.



It shouldn't take a genius to see how gentle the police were being.
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07.01.2021 - 15:53
Napisao Yacer, 07.01.2021 at 15:17

The USA stages almost all military coups against other countries and other people's choice, Biden himself supervised the military coup in Egypt, in 2013 America tasted just a little bit of what it does to the others.


Boss you are so fucking right it hurts. I was laughing so hard when all of the Republican and Democrat congressmen came out and said "violence is never the answer"- meanwhile they've been shooting baby Syrians since 2013. Hypocrites is too light of a word.
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07.01.2021 - 17:17
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Napisao Magical Meow, 07.01.2021 at 16:53

Lol, imagine Beijing Biden (a dude with dementia) being the US president,hahaha. 2021 started out strong

Imagine the president of "The Bastion of Democracy", as the US have called themselves a lot of times, telling his people to assault the goverment so he can keep the power. Yep 2021 started out strong.
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07.01.2021 - 17:43
Napisao Witch-Doctor, 07.01.2021 at 15:25

Napisao Fatcheek, 07.01.2021 at 10:14

I mean like, BLM protesters were alot worse then this and media said nothing about that


No, they weren't,that's just an outright lie. BLM protests never assault journalists, which this one did, and a study on all the BLM protest shows that no actual violence happen at BLM protests until the police or the counter protest showed up.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/10/16/this-summers-black-lives-matter-protesters-were-overwhelming-peaceful-our-research-finds/

Whenever a BLM or antifa protest happens, you have thousands of armed cops fully outfitted in military gear ready. The crackdown from the police is about a thousand times worse. People get beaten, shot, tear gased, and dragged off to unmarked cars. This is the typical police response to a BLM or antifa protest.


And this is the police response to storming the capital.



It shouldn't take a genius to see how gentle the police were being.

That's because Trump called in the national guard with BLM you utter moron. Should he have called it in faster here? Sure but don't tell me that those are police & their response, that's the national guard
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07.01.2021 - 17:58
Okay look, were the optics bad and did this look like an insurrection to some people unfamiliar with American politics? Yes. Is it good that this happened? Not at face value. Was this an act of reciprocity? Yes, in part. Do I have a deep and abiding sympathy for the Trump supporters involved that I don't want mention explicitly in my argument? Yes. Does that mean I'm wrong? No.
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07.01.2021 - 18:21
Citiraj:
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"The Bastion of Democracy" - hahahahah
The US is a oligarchical country, period. The Rich pick your candidates, that's why they hate Trump, because he wasn't supposed to win, Hillary was (remember how they cheated Bernie Sanders out of his nomination). Crime Bill Joe will run the country into the ground and sell what's left of it to China. Now back to Reddit you go, a site which is so biased it banned r/The_Donald.


Āmīn my brother. If it comes to a Civil War every Trump patriot can take refuge in my home if they are in the Sayer Park neighborhood of Cincinnati.
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07.01.2021 - 19:07
Napisao Witch-Doctor, 07.01.2021 at 15:25

Napisao Fatcheek, 07.01.2021 at 10:14

I mean like, BLM protesters were alot worse then this and media said nothing about that


No, they weren't,that's just an outright lie. BLM protests never assault journalists, which this one did, and a study on all the BLM protest shows that no actual violence happen at BLM protests until the police or the counter protest showed up.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/10/16/this-summers-black-lives-matter-protesters-were-overwhelming-peaceful-our-research-finds/

Whenever a BLM or antifa protest happens, you have thousands of armed cops fully outfitted in military gear ready. The crackdown from the police is about a thousand times worse. People get beaten, shot, tear gased, and dragged off to unmarked cars. This is the typical police response to a BLM or antifa protest.


And this is the police response to storming the capital.



It shouldn't take a genius to see how gentle the police were being.


The BLM protests injured thousands of police officers, even killing some, and cost around 3 billion in riot damage. I also think your forgetting things like a huge part of Minneapolis was burnt to the ground, The protests there started a day after George Floyd's death before police even did anything. Portland had 80 nights of violent RIOTING and Not to mention the mass looting, burning of buildings and federal property. 2000 cities had rioted at that and left the country a lot more divided than this.

Yes I agree, the response to the storming of the capitol was weak, and the response could have been stronger, but that doesn't mean this was worse then BLM protests. The storming of the capitol was just a stupid insurgency done by a bunch of dumbasses. Also to note, they weren't armed and only one person was killed, which was one of the protesters.

THIS is worse than that.





and yes, the people who stormed the capitol should be arrested.
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07.01.2021 - 19:46
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Napisao Fatcheek, 07.01.2021 at 19:07

Napisao Witch-Doctor, 07.01.2021 at 15:25

Napisao Fatcheek, 07.01.2021 at 10:14




The BLM protests injured thousands of police officers, even killing some, and cost around 3 billion in riot damage.
THIS is worse than that.



Good job getting your information from facebook.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/aug/07/facebook-posts/no-proof-black-lives-matter-killed-36-people-injur/
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07.01.2021 - 20:50
Napisao Witch-Doctor, 07.01.2021 at 19:46

Napisao Fatcheek, 07.01.2021 at 19:07

Napisao Witch-Doctor, 07.01.2021 at 15:25

Napisao Fatcheek, 07.01.2021 at 10:14




The BLM protests injured thousands of police officers, even killing some, and cost around 3 billion in riot damage.
THIS is worse than that.



Good job getting your information from facebook.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/aug/07/facebook-posts/no-proof-black-lives-matter-killed-36-people-injur/

Of course Black Lives Matter did not murder 36 people, anyone who thinks that is a moron. And Fatcheek is absolutely a moron, but that's no excuse for not critically examining your own shortcomings that Fatcheek points out. The riots that BLM enabled and condoned are what caused the deaths of so many people. Thousands of people die every year in Chicago and that figure increased by 50% in 2020 specifically because of BLM and the untruthful arguments they made to justify their riots. When there's chaos, there's death because people shoot each other in chaos
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