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Ok I am officially ending the game, sorry that there will be no Grand Finale. None of the Triumvirs except Sertorius wanted civil war. However, the other two guys got absurdly angry at me. One has even blocked me, and imo has begun to take this game way too personally. I don't want to lose friends over a forum game, this is literally the only reason why I am now stopping. Also, a good lesson as to why you keep IC and OOC separate. ....Although in a way I see it as a success I got people to be this emotionally invested in a forum game

gg all, let us now remember the great legends of the roman families

Triumvir Families - these 3 have reached the apex of power, although shared
Gens Sertorii
The Sertorii are an old and powerful family that has been influential in politics and later on in war against the Numidians, Parthians and were regarded as superior naval commanders. They have had 6 consulships, numerous prosecutions, and were always a controlling force behind the populares movement. In the late republic Flavius became the most influential, and arguably strongest of the 3 triumvirs as ruler of the west.

Gens Maria
The Marians are a very old family that was highly regarded for their religious positions. Over the course of roman history they have held a stunning 7 consulships and 1 dictatorship. Much of marian history has been military oriented, known for defeating the Seleucids at Magnesia in early times. In the mid republic they were leaders of the populare movement but were assassinated when political tensions rose, temporarily weakening the family allowing the Sertorii to take control of the party. Later, the ambitious Gaius Marius Maximus became the youngest ever dictator defeating the Socii revolt, and after defeating the massive pontic forces in Greece declared the revolt against the corrupt senate with the aid of Sertori and and Rexians. After Quintus Sertorius died however the rivalry between his son Flavius and Gaius Marius Maximus became more pronounced as they were the two ambitious leaders of the populares and resented each other.

Gens Rexii
The Rexii have consistently been a presence in roman politics, having held 6 consulships and countless other positions. The Rexii are regarded as extremely skilled politicians having risen from former disgrace to great influence and wealth as a founding member of the populares. The Rexii do have a reputation of being greedy, yet their wealth bought them power that can now no longer be denied as rulers of the eastern provinces.


Winning Families- these families picked the right side and successfully navigated the roman game of thrones to high positions of power

Gens Flavii
Of all the families in Rome, the Flavii are the most well regarded among wealthy equites. Long ago this was not the case, but following the downfall of the Numetorii, the Flavii inherited much of the wealth of the Ripam Alexandrie and begun their own steady rise to 2 consulships and numerous censorships and praetorships. Aligning with the populares the Flavii became the political centerpiece of the movement as they secured such influence among the equite class that their power in the senate became overwhelming. Ever after they were given the surname of Cato, meaning wise. And wise they have been, supporting the right side becoming rich and powerful.

Gens Nipii
The Nipii emerged from obscurity in the punic wars, being used as master of horse for less competent dictators. However, in the end they secured their own command becoming heroes of the republic after defeating Hannibal at Cannae. This fame was long lasting but in the mid republic their fortunes began to dwindle as legions loyal to the Nipii were destroyed in the numerous wars. A founding member of the populares, the Nipii have been loyal partisans and this has kept them from sinking lower. Decius began to reverse these fortunes as being part of the battle of Rome and then following Sertorius into the west becoming his heir. The Nipii may rise once again…

Gens Octavii
A wealthy and influential political family, the Octavii were strong allies of the sertorii, and they aided each other's rise. The Octavii had numerous connections throughout the city of Rome among the equites, and were commonly the Praetor, but also have secured Consulship twice in history as well as governorships in cisalpine gaul. The Octavii carefully maneuvered the dangerous political battlefield, never have been assassinated, always working from within the shadows to emerge on top.

Gens Marcii
The family history of the Marcii is a winding but tragic one as well. Over the course of history they have influential, holding 4 consulships and their most famous moment was commanding the sack of Carthage, however Africanus fell to a plague and was later utterly disgraced by being implicated in treasonous plot with the Antonines. Rising from this misfortune they switched parties to the Populares and became a decisive element in the civil war by granting support in return for rule over the Asian provinces. But once again, the head of the family died, this time in battle, reducing the family to mediocrity.

Gens Paulli
The Paulli are a notoriously wealthy but also greedy roman family. They rose to power after falling out with Potestatem party by making deals with the Populares to rule wealthy provinces as long as they turned a blind eye to their corruption. Amassing huge sums, the Paulli were never in Rome for most of their history. But this is not to say they are without merit, for they helped bring roman civilization to cisalpine gaul, and were large bankrollers of the populare movement. In the civil war they grew more ambitious seeking military commands as admirals and growing closer to the Sertorian faction.

At least I am still part of the wealthy 1% Tier
Gens Numetorii
A once more powerful family in the early republic and leader of the notable third party, ripam alexandrie, the untimely death of the head of the family ended this movement. Later on, the Numetorii aligned themselves with Potestatem, but their high status was degraded by being on the losing side of the civil war. The Numetorii have held 4 Consulships, numerous other political positions and were known as saviors of Rome from the Germans and victors against the notorious Viriathus in their brightest moment.

Gens Caetronii
The Caetronii have always been defenders of the roman state, military leaders, above political factionalism. Over the course of history they have held 5 consulships and 1 dictatorship. The Caetronii were known as victors over gauls in early times, but were most influential in the mid republic reaching an apex under Lucius who defeated the Spanish revolts as well as the pirates, guiding Rome through a turbulent political time as a neutral player. In the late republic their fortunes fell as Lucius grew old and his heirs could not defend the republic from the populares. Even so, the Caetronii are a continuing strong presence in the roman state.


At least I am not dead Tier
Gens Cornelli Scipiones
An old and active family, their fortunes rose to supreme heights in the early republic as conquers of Illyria and climaxed with their 1 consulship. Later though they were politically destroyed by the Populares and then fell into obscurity, and when Gnaeus began to rise he was struck down by plague. In the late republic Metellus was known as the most stalwart defender of the senate and fought until the last at Africa.

Gens Varii
From plebian origins, the Varii rose from the lower classes to the senate with the support of the Potestatem party (by giving them huge sums of money). The Varii reached their apex in a consulship with the Numetorii, after defeating a huge german horde in pannonia. After this moment of glory they began to fade as their wealth dried up and the Potestatem lost political power. After the battle of rome they surrendered to the populares but despite this were still executed due to hatred against them from the Marians. Even so, the Varii have not been utterly destroyed as the family still lives on as their recent son has been spared by the now more merciful populare senate due to the passage of time.

Gens Pedii
Plebians like the Varii, the Pedii rose to political relevance in a dangerous political era. With civil war imminent, they were thrust into hard decisions. A marriage alliance almost occurred with the Rexii potentially earning the favor of the populares but this ultimately broken down and the Pedii backed the Senate to their ultimate doom. Despite donating their entire fortune to the senatorial cause, this was not enough as the senatorial forces failed three times in battle. Escaping from the populare onslaught as governer of narbonese Gaul, the Pedii were finally captured after the Senatorial defeat in Africa and exiled.

Losers - families fallen from power, or traitors, or extinct
Gens Antonia, Gens Phoenicii, Gens Maximii , other people who have dropped out

27.09.2016 - 11:55
Napisao Aetius, 27.09.2016 at 01:36

Glad you are dying, you always go out in the most butthurt way possible. You take minor situations and make them much worse. Also you are a very rude person. Don't post here anymore you aren't welcome back.

I would greatly appreciate if a mod could delete all these non game argument posts


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27.09.2016 - 12:12

Assassination Attempt

Marco Flavius Cato Minor(Witch-Doctor) is attacked by Marcus Antonius (El Tundero). He loses -5 influence, is arrested and will be put on trial next turn.

Roll: 1 (-2 from 2 secret bodyguards) =-1
Result: Assassination attempt fails and is caught, witch-doctor uses all his cards
roll proof
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27.09.2016 - 12:32
==Turn 20: Phase 3 has begun==
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27.09.2016 - 12:49
Napisao Phoenix, 27.09.2016 at 11:55

Napisao Aetius, 27.09.2016 at 01:36


Fuck you

I rest my case

Napisao Darth., 27.09.2016 at 05:53

He is incapable of putting forward logical arguments and standard comebacks are "Narb, fuck, and cunt"
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27.09.2016 - 12:54
I don't really like assassinations at all, but good lord Tunder, I feel bad for you.
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27.09.2016 - 13:08
Why aren't Potesatem names blue anymore?
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27.09.2016 - 13:12
Napisao Zephyrusu, 27.09.2016 at 13:08

Why aren't Potesatem names blue anymore?


They have disbanded, their treasury will be split 3 ways
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27.09.2016 - 13:36
Napisao Aetius, 27.09.2016 at 13:12

Napisao Zephyrusu, 27.09.2016 at 13:08

Why aren't Potesatem names blue anymore?


They have disbanded, their treasury will be split 3 ways

Do they even have a treasury? After they spent 40 Talents on failing a bribe
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27.09.2016 - 14:46
I wont lose because of poor decisions, I've lost because of a bias host who not only used privately disclosed tactical information to his factions advantage but also decided to ignore my decisions and failed to explain key events and rules in the necessary detail for me to strategies to the effect that he can.

As a result I have lost interest in trying. There is no point in attempting to win a game like this. I have better things to do with my time.

Fyi, the failsafe plan was for me to waste aetius' body gaurds and potestatem use 2 cards for. 2/3 chance of assassination. We were under the impression our assasination card had swapped hands.

But even before that, I had a weak character and Aetius agreed to send a vet legion, that would have caused me to pick envelopment, winning the war a turn early. But I expressed that I would take a risk by choosing surprise attack if he did not... Only then did he change his mind, knowing it benefitted his faction. At this point I knew my character was worthless, hence the kamikaze on Aetius.

There are numerous other examples of poor hosting/ bias, whatever you want to call it. One other recent example is his decision to remove my income from my equites and base income, when he only explained I would lose my provincial income.

You can quip at me all you like about how I cry when I lose, but I'm not crying, I'm pointing out the many flaws in this game, that don't make it worth playing.

More problems include the npc "governors", the potential for factions to recruit endless senators and the lack of clarity over tribunes and how they can be used.

If you want to host an enjoyable and truly competitive game, you need to address these issues.
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27.09.2016 - 14:58
Man, next time, use some lube
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27.09.2016 - 17:30
Best last words
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27.09.2016 - 18:35
==Turn 20: Phase 4 has begun==
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27.09.2016 - 18:35
Gaius Marius Maximus stands on a hill overseeing the bloody battle of Chaeronea, the fields littered with corpses of Pontic soldiers, the Legions in his army standing before him eager to listen to the words of their commander

''Sons of Rome!
Soldiers, friends and fellow Senators!
This victory marks the beginning of a new age for the Roman Republic and her people, for far too long have we been held back by weak and greedy Senators with no backbone, who have repeatedly tried to thwart our attempts to make the Rome we have all bled for great.

This all began with the murder of my father, Gaius Marius Major by the cowardly Potestatem, the first Consul to have been murdered, and only just after having voted in the Senate, his command against the Macedonians usurped by his assassin!

The Populares faction has listened to all pleas by the Roman people, but we have been held back by those who resent us, they have tried to murder us, even during this year, and my father was only the first victim.

This all ends today!

The bickering in the Senate has gone on long enough, and we are no longer safe from cowardly assassins, I ask you soldiers and my fellow Populares friends, to join me in the fight against injustice and kill the maggot traitors feasting on the carcass of what we once knew as the Roman Republic!

Sons of Rome, you trusted me first in battle against the Italians and now against the Pontians, I ask you trust me once more, and join me in my fight against the traitors residing in Rome!

Populares will bring you final victory!''


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"Another such victory and I come back to Epirus alone" - Pyrrhus of Epirus
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27.09.2016 - 19:02
 Witch-Doctor (Moderator)
I join the rebellion.
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27.09.2016 - 19:03
Pavle joins
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27.09.2016 - 19:05
Napisao Witch-Doctor, 27.09.2016 at 19:02

I join the rebellion.

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27.09.2016 - 19:10
Omg Pyrrhus with the auto-play. I keep refreshing and its worse than the rebellion.
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27.09.2016 - 19:13
As Tiberius Octavius stands in his villa he is riddled with the most important decision of his career; to, or not to join the rebellion. Time and time again he has seen his fellow countrymen angered by the Potestatem faction! He will no longer tolerate this kind of behaviour being exhibited and even glorified in the senate, as a morally righteous man he has chosen the path of the people and not personal gain! This very moment will be marked down in history as Octavius pledges his allegiance to not only the Populares, but also the Roman citizens and soldiers!

I - Tiberius Octavius solemnly swear my allegiance to the Roman people and to the Populares. Down with the usurpers that have time and time again taken rome for granted! They do not respect other Romans, they do not treat others with respect inside the senate, they only respect one thing! That is their own personal power and gain. Fellow Romans, men, women and children i ask of you to see light in what we are doing, we are fixing and purging Rome from the main problem we face today! Rome from now on will be glorious!
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27.09.2016 - 19:14
A messenger brigns word of the revolt in Greece. With rebels and loyalist in both ears of Marcus, he stands to look out the window into the bay of Messina. His top officer, Catoris Brutei approaches hoping to hear that they will eb sent to Greece to put down the rebellion. As he ask his commander what his orders are, Marcus can only close his eyes as a tear rolls down his cheek. Soldiers grab Brutei causing swordsw to be unsheathed. A fight breaks out between veterans and loyalist. As the loyalist commanders are seized and arrested, Marcus turns around to address his troops.


"The state of Rome is a disaster. Time and time again, blood rolls down the Senate steps. This new wave of assassinations and violence began with one faction that attempted to monopolize power through subterfuge and deceit. It is with a heavy heart that I must raise my sword against the Senate, but only for the People of Rome. The truth is that barbarians are at our gates and we cannot allow this palace intrigue to continue. The Senate has lost all legitimacy in the eyes of the people. So I ask, who is with me? Who will come with me!"

Hands slam against shiled as two vetran legions show their support. Riots begin breaking out in the city as family turns against family. With civil order lost, and a large loyalist force approaching, Marcus and his forces quickly board vessels.


"The people of Rome need a hero. Someone to lead them to glory once more. We need order in this world as barbarians and fifth columns plague our city and Republic. I will help brign that order. But I do not have the philosophical mind to build glamour and prestige- I do ot delude myself as man with the philosophical mind to achieve these feats on my own.I do not have time to take any part in the working out of schemes to better the conditions of life; I regard this as fruitless solely theoretical work. I consider destruction to be such an enormous and difficult task that I must devote all my powers to it, and I do not wish to deceive myself with the dream that we will have enough strength and knowledge for creation."

Marcus thinks to himself looking at the destruction with a sad heart:
As for the people of Sicily dealing with a wretched slave uprising, I shall return. But for now, I join my comrades in Greece with the cheers of my veterans behind me.
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Everyone is living a myth and it's important to know what yours is. It could be a tragedy- and maybe you don't want it to be.
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27.09.2016 - 21:43
I demand that MrArmy declares Gaius Marius Maximus (Pyrrhus), Quintus Sertorius Numidicus (Aetius) and Caspiel Rex Secundus (Darth) as enemies of the state.
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27.09.2016 - 21:50
Lars Pedius sits in his house, mourning the death of his wife. His daughter, Floridia, comes into the room and, in tears, and asks what is to be done. Lars turns around to address his daughter.
"Floridia, we are hated. I believe the man who killed my wife is a enemy of the Senate. Our very lives are in danger. However, we must remain loyal to the Senate."
Floridia sits down by her father. "But aren't we safer elsewhere?" Lars grimly replied, "We do not run from danger, the Senate needs us."

Lars gets up and goes to speak to his personal army.
"I have chosen to stay loyal to the Senate. However, you each have a choice. Will ye serve me and the Senate, or will ye join the People of Rome? If ye will serve me, stay. If ye will serve Rome, go in peace."
Lars watched as his personal army, quietly left the room. Only 17 men stayed behind...
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27.09.2016 - 21:50
Napisao Tundy, 27.09.2016 at 21:43

I demand that MrArmy declares Gaius Marius Maximus (Pyrrhus), Quintus Sertorius Numidicus (Aetius) and Caspiel Rex Secundus (Darth) as enemies of the state.


An assassin sitting in prison can demand nothing before he has received his verdict
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27.09.2016 - 21:56
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Napisao Tundy, 27.09.2016 at 21:09

Make me Dictator, I will crush the rebels Like my grand father crushed the Phoenicians.

Given your -1 roll on assassinations, your bad luck will carry over to battles
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27.09.2016 - 21:58
 JF.
Napisao Pyrrhus, 27.09.2016 at 21:50

Napisao Tundy, 27.09.2016 at 21:43

I demand that MrArmy declares Gaius Marius Maximus (Pyrrhus), Quintus Sertorius Numidicus (Aetius) and Caspiel Rex Secundus (Darth) as enemies of the state.


An assassin sitting in prison can demand nothing before he has received his verdict


He will be dropped of all charges.
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27.09.2016 - 22:00
Napisao Pyrrhus, 27.09.2016 at 21:50

Napisao Tundy, 27.09.2016 at 21:43

I demand that MrArmy declares Gaius Marius Maximus (Pyrrhus), Quintus Sertorius Numidicus (Aetius) and Caspiel Rex Secundus (Darth) as enemies of the state.


An assassin sitting in prison can demand nothing before he has received his verdict


I was the first one to pull a dagger in order to defend the republic, we can't say the same about you -a tyrant in the making- because you lack the principles required to be a man. Perhaps you should join the vestal virgins and leave matters of the state to those who know what they are doing.
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27.09.2016 - 22:02
Both of your statements are prime examples of all that is wrong with the Republic
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27.09.2016 - 22:10
 JF.
Napisao Pyrrhus, 27.09.2016 at 22:02

Both of your statements are prime examples of all that is wrong with the Republic


Why would we charge someone who tried killing our enemy?
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27.09.2016 - 22:11
Napisao Pyrrhus, 27.09.2016 at 22:02

Both of your statements are prime examples of all that is wrong with the Republic


Your kind is among wild dogs and vultures, devouring the corruption and flesh of the bones and striping them naked. Not a single drop of dignity is left among your disgraced house. It is well known that Sertorious blows you in the ass. Men with no character always decide to be the tools of war, it is no surprise that having defeated all external threats; your ego demands that you must be in a eternal state of war and thus wage war against the roman state itself.

Having said that, I will predict that war will plague the Roman people for eternity unless you and all the enemies of the state are defeated and put to death
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27.09.2016 - 22:11
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Napisao JF., 27.09.2016 at 22:10

Napisao Pyrrhus, 27.09.2016 at 22:02

Both of your statements are prime examples of all that is wrong with the Republic


Why would we charge someone who tried killing our enemy?


Tundero is spy!
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27.09.2016 - 22:24
Sertorius if you have any dignity left; stand down and come back to Rome for judgement. I will make sure that you aren't put to death and have safe passage.
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