True Story

Translated from Russian. (With help of Google Translate, since I'm on my phone right now)


- For the Motherland! For Stalin! Attack! - Shouted a young lieutenant. - Oh nah - Private Belolentov said, throwing the rifle. - Shoot, I will not! Lieutenant surprise jumped back into the trench. The lieutenant had to shoot the private,, but he had never shot deserters before. - Why aren't you fighting? - Bah!Going somewhere to die. For what? - What!? For the Motherland! For family, for children.Private Belolentov spat. - For children? Do you know what great-grandson in 2013 is going to say about me? He will say I am cannon meat.Leytenant squandered. This he did not expect and now counted on the support of other soldiers. - Belolentov is right, says - Kudrin said Sgt. - My granddaughter will write an article that I personally - Kudrin calculated something in mind - raped about 238 German women. - Lucky you, - sighed enviously Private Chubais. - Mine will say that I was a nasty Stalinist, murderer and a maniac.. - And mine will say - sighed politruk Gozman - that they would drink Bavarian. - Yours? - Amazed leytenant.Gozman spread his hands. - Right, right - blabbered others. - They'll shit on the victory parade in Facebook. They will say it's worser to be in traffic jam than in gas chamber.Everybody again glanced at Gozman. He blushed. - Do whatever you want - Belolentov said - but I'm out. Let them drink Bavarian beer. If they'll even be born.Belolentov climbed out of the trench on the other side and walked to the rear. The others followed.Young lieutenant attempted to perform his duty and destroy the deserters, but then he remembered that his son at the end of life is going write a monograph "Stalin is worse than Hitler." After a moment he committed suicide.Road to Moscow was free. Soon the capital was captured. The Soviet Union fell, and new order rose above its land. (C)

Did this happen on atwar?

Napisao Flaming Spaz, 11.05.2014 at 00:56

Did this happen on atwar?

Dafuq

11/10

No really

Napisao Need Mental Help, 10.05.2014 at 21:24

Translated from Russian. (With help of Google Translate, since I'm on my phone right now)


- For the Motherland! For Stalin! Attack! - Shouted a young lieutenant. - Oh nah - Private Belolentov said, throwing the rifle. - Shoot, I will not! Lieutenant surprise jumped back into the trench. The lieutenant had to shoot the private,, but he had never shot deserters before. - Why aren't you fighting? - Bah!Going somewhere to die. For what? - What!? For the Motherland! For family, for children.Private Belolentov spat. - For children? Do you know what great-grandson in 2013 is going to say about me? He will say I am cannon meat.Leytenant squandered. This he did not expect and now counted on the support of other soldiers. - Belolentov is right, says - Kudrin said Sgt. - My granddaughter will write an article that I personally - Kudrin calculated something in mind - raped about 238 German women. - Lucky you, - sighed enviously Private Chubais. - Mine will say that I was a nasty Stalinist, murderer and a maniac.. - And mine will say - sighed politruk Gozman - that they would drink Bavarian. - Yours? - Amazed leytenant.Gozman spread his hands. - Right, right - blabbered others. - They'll shit on the victory parade in Facebook. They will say it's worser to be in traffic jam than in gas chamber.Everybody again glanced at Gozman. He blushed. - Do whatever you want - Belolentov said - but I'm out. Let them drink Bavarian beer. If they'll even be born.Belolentov climbed out of the trench on the other side and walked to the rear. The others followed.Young lieutenant attempted to perform his duty and destroy the deserters, but then he remembered that his son at the end of life is going write a monograph "Stalin is worse than Hitler." After a moment he committed suicide.Road to Moscow was free. Soon the capital was captured. The Soviet Union fell, and new order rose above its land. (C)

5/5 <3

Napisao Skanderbeg, 11.05.2014 at 16:02

Damn so true. People had more respect and logic back in the days. Today people use internet to troll and shit on others, and if they get similar chance in real life they will rather keep their head down and be silent, but when they log on the internet they become strong keyboard warriors.

Without the strength, sweat, tears and blood of the russians world would be speaking german now, and Europe wouldnt have nations, but a nation.

And when i praise russian achievements which saved the world what do i get, insults, more trashtalking, mocking and at the end threats from those same people who are silent and obey the stronger in real life.

Maybe america and china had some innovations, strong economy and life opportunity and stability, but thats because Russia is enabling them all them to.

I am more concerned with the building Stalin/Mao as bad as Hitler sentiment.

This fallacy-at-many-levels did start in Britain, but American conservatives have picked it up and started parroting it, repeatedly. And recently it has become party conversation in the USA. Facts do not matter in such tirades, but what is more troubling is that reason and memory have failed.

It does not help that Putin (neither Hitler nor Stalin nor Mao, nor even Soviet) transparently timed his adventurism after the Winter Olympics, as the US winds down its two most recent wars and neo-fascism wearing a nationalist evening gown starts to strut the runways in Athens and Rome.

So Putin soon = Stalin.
And it will be already 'established' that Stalin = Hitler.
Therefore Putin = Hitler.
Which for me is disgusting.
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That being said, if they do not speak German, what do they speak?

Napisao Skanderbeg, 11.05.2014 at 16:02

Without the strength, sweat, tears and blood of the russians world would be speaking german now, and Europe wouldnt have nations, but a nation.

And when i praise russian achievements which saved the world what do i get, insults, more trashtalking, mocking and at the end threats from those same people who are silent and obey the stronger in real life.

Maybe america and china had some innovations, strong economy and life opportunity and stability, but thats because Russia is enabling them all them to.

Napisao Khal.eesi, 12.05.2014 at 11:36

Napisao Skanderbeg, 11.05.2014 at 16:02

Without the strength, sweat, tears and blood of the russians world would be speaking german now, and Europe wouldnt have nations, but a nation.

And when i praise russian achievements which saved the world what do i get, insults, more trashtalking, mocking and at the end threats from those same people who are silent and obey the stronger in real life.

Maybe america and china had some innovations, strong economy and life opportunity and stability, but thats because Russia is enabling them all them to.

I see u move from Greece hueue

Napisao Khal.eesi, 12.05.2014 at 11:36

Napisao Skanderbeg, 11.05.2014 at 16:02

Without the strength, sweat, tears and blood of the russians world would be speaking german now, and Europe wouldnt have nations, but a nation.

And when i praise russian achievements which saved the world what do i get, insults, more trashtalking, mocking and at the end threats from those same people who are silent and obey the stronger in real life.

Maybe america and china had some innovations, strong economy and life opportunity and stability, but thats because Russia is enabling them all them to.

Its true, the soviets defeated around 70 percent of the German army. If they had not, the Germans would have defeated the Allies in Western Europe.

Napisao Skanderbeg, 13.05.2014 at 06:18

Why is that guy in chains? Do you want to tell us that you are chained and without liberty and you support that?

uw0tm8 it's a facepalm GIF

Napisao Guest, 13.05.2014 at 00:17

Napisao Khal.eesi, 12.05.2014 at 11:36

Napisao Skanderbeg, 11.05.2014 at 16:02

Without the strength, sweat, tears and blood of the russians world would be speaking german now, and Europe wouldnt have nations, but a nation.

And when i praise russian achievements which saved the world what do i get, insults, more trashtalking, mocking and at the end threats from those same people who are silent and obey the stronger in real life.

Maybe america and china had some innovations, strong economy and life opportunity and stability, but thats because Russia is enabling them all them to.

Its true, the soviets defeated around 70 percent of the German army. If they had not, the Germans would have defeated the Allies in Western Europe.

Yeah well see thats not a very good argument now.Because following that logic, i can safely say that if UK didnt fight Germany, then Germany would have owned Moscow and we would all speak Russian then.

Napisao Khal.eesi, 13.05.2014 at 08:30

Napisao Guest, 13.05.2014 at 00:17

Napisao Khal.eesi, 12.05.2014 at 11:36

Napisao Skanderbeg, 11.05.2014 at 16:02

Without the strength, sweat, tears and blood of the russians world would be speaking german now, and Europe wouldnt have nations, but a nation.

And when i praise russian achievements which saved the world what do i get, insults, more trashtalking, mocking and at the end threats from those same people who are silent and obey the stronger in real life.

Maybe america and china had some innovations, strong economy and life opportunity and stability, but thats because Russia is enabling them all them to.

Its true, the soviets defeated around 70 percent of the German army. If they had not, the Germans would have defeated the Allies in Western Europe.

Yeah well see thats not a very good argument now.Because following that logic, i can safely say that if UK didnt fight Germany, then Germany would have owned Moscow and we would all speak Russian then.

That may or may not be true, that we all would be speaking German. More soldiers could mean more supplies, which the Germans had trouble with.

No, Hitler didn't just lose because Russia was strong, mainly the soldiers couldn't stand a chance against Russians because of the weather. (Not saying that it was all about the weather, it was just an important part of the Russian victory)
Hitler lost to Russia because of the weather. So did Napoleon, those people will never learn ^^
At that time, most of the European nations were defeated and UK was being pushed back very well, only USA was coming from the west.
The only resistance in europe, except for US & UK, were guerilla fighters so I don't think that UK not taking part in WWII would make much difference. Even though Hitler would probably take W.Europe more easily, it would still be the same, imo.
Also, UK and France, if I'm right, were the first countries to go on war with Germany in order to protect Poland, so trying to ''replace'' UK with Russia isn't possible, since the result of WWII would probably change dramatically

And... lol'ed at that guy in the story talking about FB.

Napisao Skanderbeg, 12.05.2014 at 11:18

Their native languages, english in england, french in france, dutch in holland, norwegian in norway, polish in poland, czechoslovakian in czechoslovakia, yugoslav in yugoslavia.

If USSR lost, europe would be german as they would kill all nongermans in europe aka whole european population. They started killing eastern europeans so they can move and settle germans(lebensraum), poles(5 million) russians(20 million), serbs(1,5 million), not including non-titular state nations like romani, aromanians, gorani, cincars, vlakhs. In mein kampf hitler said slavs should be used to kill slavs to speed up extermination, preferably catholics vs orthodox(poles vs russians, croats vs serbs) and when catholics finish work with orthodox, they will be killed by germans and be thrown in the same mass grave with other slavs. Same wouldve happen with france, england, benelux, scandinavia if hitler beat USSR, he would focus on the west.

Would USA and England sign peace treaty with German Europe if USSR lost?

Counterfactual history fascinates me.

They might have sought peace, yes. Because America was very divided on the European question.
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If Hitler hadn't gone completely nuts and declared war against the United States there may have been no political way for FDR to call for a European war - 'German-American' is still the largest claimed ancestry-nationality in the United States (for those who identify as something other than American), and the percentage was much higher in the 1940s than it is today.

It seems counter-intuitive that America would willingly open up a two front war, anyway. To the average American, it makes sense to let the USSR and Germany exhaust their forces against each other while America defeats Japan. On the eve of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, still about 30% of Americans were against a war with Germany.

Politically, FDR lost ground in the 1940 election (7% points of the total electorate compared to 1936's election, which is huge) largely blamed on German-American sentiment.
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Even with Hitler's declaration of war, four key elements of the war might have changed everything:
- Germany and Japan realize their codes are compromised. The staggering success of Allied codebreakers shortened the war by years. The Battle of Midway is a supreme example of this.
- The Manhattan Project is not as 'lucky' as it was in delivering both plutonium and uranium atomic bombs.
- D-Day fails.
- Japan accepts the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. America reserves its remaining atomic bomb (and subsequent bombs) for attack of the Japanese Home Islands.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_American
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_non-interventionism#Non-interventionism_shortly_before_World_War_II