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Napisano od Helly, 14.02.2016 - 06:14
It took a while but here it is, this issue has been on my mind for a long time now and it's in all of our best interests to atleast consider the following.

People have been complaining about the dead competitive scene but what do you guys do? Illyria goes inactive so its top members join sm? I like lao but it's the wrong way to go indeed if we want to turn things around. We need more clans many many more clans, and it's obvious we are not capable if doing it ourselves so here's my idea.

Clan capacity:
Make clan capacity for clans, all clans start with 6-10 spots available more unlocked with clan elo in time maximum of 20.

I know it's not an entire novel like a clovis thread but it would fundementally change the way clans are today forcing players that want to cw and win to separate and strengthen smaller teams of players making it more like our now booming dueling scene.

Point is we got 3 or 4 clan everyone flocks to each season in order to win, this must stop. It's poisonous to new players who would otherwise be interested.

Let me know what you think, got any better ideas? Let's hear em!
14.02.2016 - 09:06
Epic Clan have a lot of new and fresh low ranks...

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But how can we put to CW if every clan bar ENIGMA keep using the same high ranks?
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14.02.2016 - 09:09
In a perfect world every clan would have a max of like 6 Clan war players and 3 trainees. Anytime a player is lost to inactivity or another clan get a new trainee.
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14.02.2016 - 09:11
Good proposition mate
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14.02.2016 - 09:28
We need more clans like ENIGMA.


That's all.
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14.02.2016 - 09:29
Napisao clovis1122, 14.02.2016 at 09:28

We need more clans like ENIGMA.


That's all.

I agree but our inability to create such clans on our own means we need a system to do it for us.
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14.02.2016 - 09:32
Napisao Oleg, 14.02.2016 at 08:53

Napisao Permamuted, 14.02.2016 at 08:49

I don't like this namedropping. When illyria died i had 3 options, remain in illy and attempt to keep it alive assuming full leadership(something i did not want the responsibility of), leave illyria or quit atwar entirely.

I'm at a stage where i just want to enjoy aw and play some clan wars. I've no interest in leading new clans.

illyria didnt really die,just a few leaders gone inactive,and you left and made all others leave and follow you in sm.


Go away.
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14.02.2016 - 09:39
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Napisao Permamuted, 14.02.2016 at 09:32

Napisao Oleg, 14.02.2016 at 08:53

Napisao Permamuted, 14.02.2016 at 08:49

I don't like this namedropping. When illyria died i had 3 options, remain in illy and attempt to keep it alive assuming full leadership(something i did not want the responsibility of), leave illyria or quit atwar entirely.

I'm at a stage where i just want to enjoy aw and play some clan wars. I've no interest in leading new clans.

illyria didnt really die,just a few leaders gone inactive,and you left and made all others leave and follow you in sm.


Go away.


Illy was dead already when lao left
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14.02.2016 - 09:52
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Time to make more ENIGMA's
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14.02.2016 - 10:12
Napisao clovis1122, 14.02.2016 at 09:06





To be honest to "new" players like me and tons of low ranks cw's are boring because its the same EU map. I'll be very exited when we have a WWII cw or something...
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14.02.2016 - 10:14
Good distribution of ranks:



Not so good but not so bad either:



And this type of distribution is what don't let low ranks to CW:



If we can't stop high ranks from fighting each others then we should allow different seasonal ELO depending on rank. Says one seasonal elo for rank 10+ CWs, other for rank 6-9 CWs and the overall ELO. Also trophies for seasonal.

That way, high ranks could still compete for their precious #1 place, but low rank clans could also compete for #1 place in a different system. Clans who wishes to win both classifications would have a hybrid system with both high and low rank, and so on.
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14.02.2016 - 10:15
You have a certain point, but AW isn't fully about competitive, never has been, never will ever since custom maps rose to power.

I'd vote no.
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14.02.2016 - 10:31
Napisao clovis1122, 14.02.2016 at 10:14

If we can't stop high ranks from fighting each others then we should allow different seasonal ELO depending on rank. Says one seasonal elo for rank 10+ CWs, other for rank 6-9 CWs and the overall ELO. Also trophies for seasonal.

That way, high ranks could still compete for their precious #1 place, but low rank clans could also compete for #1 place in a different system. Clans who wishes to win both classifications would have a hybrid system with both high and low rank, and so on.


Too many splitting between competitive players.

Ranks 8-15 have all and almost all needed upgrades for participating in fully competitive scene. And if you have.ranks 8 or 9 online, you will, logically, search for equalling ranks with one opponent's rank 8 or 9.

Whatsmore, 98% of CWs are played by ranks 9+ so if you make a parallel CWing system only for ranks 6-9, I bet there would't be more than 10 CWs per season. Especially if you don't include all Critical's alt in them.

Only coalition which is really using lower ranks are Mecoy's noobs. Others use them rarely or very rarely (example: Epic clan (used that rank 7, without including Critical's alts), RD (used 2 times rank 8 with no Prem, SM who used rank 8).
Others just don't use them. Best example MK, they are fighting with their best, it's their decision and it has to be respected from a competitive player.
All lower ranks are their alts or become an alts in some time.


Only solution to lower rank CWs might be making separated CW room for lower ranks as it is for standard games, but make it from 3-7 or continue searching on Global for a low rank CW with shown ranks.
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14.02.2016 - 10:39
Napisao Croat, 14.02.2016 at 10:31

Only solution to lower rank CWs might be making separated CW room for lower ranks as it is for standard games, but make it from 3-7




Read my suggestion again...
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14.02.2016 - 10:48
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14.02.2016 - 11:02
Napisao clovis1122, 14.02.2016 at 10:39

Read my suggestion again...


I did 4 times and I still find it pointless..

What will be when 11-10-8 ranks have a CW with 7-12-9?
Would you consider it as high rank CW or lower rank CW ?
To whom will seasonal Elo go?

Now go break your head on wall to find an answer
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14.02.2016 - 11:38
No one recognizing dino is a r13 in a r9 shell...
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14.02.2016 - 12:18
Napisao clovis1122, 14.02.2016 at 09:06

Epic Clan have a lot of new and fresh low ranks...

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But how can we put to CW if every clan bar ENIGMA keep using the same high ranks?

Stop inviting rpers ! Maybe. Just a thought.
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14.02.2016 - 12:32
Napisao The Tactician, 14.02.2016 at 07:19

Napisao EndsOfInvention, 14.02.2016 at 07:17

Napisao Helly, 14.02.2016 at 07:09

The amount of clans would increase making it more of a necessity for clans of few players to bring up low ranks to fill in the holes in there rosters.

Why would there be clans of few players? Increacing the number of clans does not spread the high ranks more thinly when there are more than 10 high ranks in most clans. With fewer places, every clan would be full of as many strong players as possible.

maybe a 15 capacity for r9+ and unlimited for lower ranks?


what happens when they rank up? SM is a stacked clan but what people dont see is that 13/20 r9+ in SM joined at rank 6 or below and are organically grown.

there should be a number cap that increases with 1. Clan age. 2. Player loyalty 3. players r7 and under not needing to be registered.

OR

You have a set number players that can be registered to cw for 1 season, clan size can be as large as you like but only registered players can cw.
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14.02.2016 - 12:40
Napisao clovis1122, 14.02.2016 at 09:28

We need more clans like ENIGMA.


That's all.


Thanks
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14.02.2016 - 12:44
clovis ramblings

Clovis look at ours and MKs member list, then you will realise that both clans built their own reputations and ranked up together.
SM and MK actually all of the established clans built themselves, new clans need to also, We are like the Real Madrid and Barca, it is up to other clans to organise and challenge us
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14.02.2016 - 12:52
Napisao b0nker2, 14.02.2016 at 12:44

clovis ramblings

Clovis look at ours and MKs member list, then you will realise that both clans built their own reputations and ranked up together.
SM and MK actually all of the established clans built themselves, new clans need to also, We are like the Real Madrid and Barca, it is up to other clans to organise and challenge us


Nice self-esteem
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14.02.2016 - 13:08
Napisao b0nker2, 14.02.2016 at 12:44

We are like the Real Madrid and Barca

Which of both would be Madrid? Cuase they suck much lately and was built exclusively on money...
And which would be Barça? Cause thye're having trouble with the tax office...
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14.02.2016 - 13:10
Napisao RaulPB, 14.02.2016 at 13:08

Napisao b0nker2, 14.02.2016 at 12:44

We are like the Real Madrid and Barca

Which of both would be Madrid? Cuase they suck much lately and was built exclusively on money...
And which would be Barça? Cause thye're having trouble with the tax office...


Im an Arsenal fan, they both suck
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14.02.2016 - 13:28
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Napisao Permamuted, 14.02.2016 at 09:32

Napisao Oleg, 14.02.2016 at 08:53

Napisao Permamuted, 14.02.2016 at 08:49

I don't like this namedropping. When illyria died i had 3 options, remain in illy and attempt to keep it alive assuming full leadership(something i did not want the responsibility of), leave illyria or quit atwar entirely.

I'm at a stage where i just want to enjoy aw and play some clan wars. I've no interest in leading new clans.

illyria didnt really die,just a few leaders gone inactive,and you left and made all others leave and follow you in sm.


Go away.

ya,i told the truth and now tell me that.
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14.02.2016 - 13:39
Napisao Oleg, 14.02.2016 at 13:28

Napisao Permamuted, 14.02.2016 at 09:32

Napisao Oleg, 14.02.2016 at 08:53

Napisao Permamuted, 14.02.2016 at 08:49

I don't like this namedropping. When illyria died i had 3 options, remain in illy and attempt to keep it alive assuming full leadership(something i did not want the responsibility of), leave illyria or quit atwar entirely.

I'm at a stage where i just want to enjoy aw and play some clan wars. I've no interest in leading new clans.

illyria didnt really die,just a few leaders gone inactive,and you left and made all others leave and follow you in sm.


Go away.

ya,i told the truth and now tell me that.


then you look at sm and see only invis and skend followed laochra. Then you look at skends games and see he has been inactive for months. Then you look at all of illyrias leadership like pont khal acqui joed and see they too are inactive.

Then you realise that andertes isnt telling the truth, he is just talking a load of shit, as per usual. Kindly do us all a favour, and learn how to post on the forums, or even better, stop posting here altogether.

Let me refer you back to my last response.

Napisao Permamuted, 14.02.2016 at 09:32

Go away.
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14.02.2016 - 13:51
Napisao b0nker2, 14.02.2016 at 12:40

Napisao clovis1122, 14.02.2016 at 09:28

We need more clans like ENIGMA.


That's all.


Thanks

your welcome
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14.02.2016 - 13:53
Napisao b0nker2, 14.02.2016 at 12:44

clovis ramblings

Clovis look at ours and MKs member list, then you will realise that both clans built their own reputations and ranked up together.
SM and MK actually all of the established clans built themselves, new clans need to also, We are like the Real Madrid and Barca, it is up to other clans to organise and challenge us

this i agree with...in a year or so all of enigmas core will be high ranks as well then people will start crying like they do about mk...the thing is to always have low ranks training as well...and let them cw ffs.
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14.02.2016 - 14:05
Napisao b0nker2, 14.02.2016 at 12:44

Clovis look at ours and MKs member list, then you will realise that both clans built their own reputations and ranked up together.


I though laochra grew in Illyria....

I have nothing against MK or SM, but making a brand new seasonal score seems the best option to encourage clans to use something else than their highest ranks. You high rank guys could still fight each others and have fun, also earn trophies. Just that other clans like noobs or we could also fight with clans from our tier and have fun, win trophies, etc.
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14.02.2016 - 14:13
Napisao clovis1122, 14.02.2016 at 14:05



You still owe me answer on my questions
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14.02.2016 - 14:50
Napisao b0nker2, 14.02.2016 at 13:10

Im an Arsenal fan, they both suck


Napisao b0nker2, 14.02.2016 at 12:44

We are like the Real Madrid and Barca

So... that means both your clans suck as well. Nice to know
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