History repeats itself ... see yall later

***** is doing the same thing they did to Stalin's martians back in the day, take something they aren't apart of, ram themselves headfirst into it and destroy it from the inside.

It's been nice all old players... time to make way for the "hundreds of new paying customers" on the way, I enjoyed most of the time I spent here but I can't look at this place the same anymore, possibly because it's not the biologically not same place it was before...

You can't say anything without being a complete enemy of the "staff team"... and these volunteers are ripping the very essence of this game apart, day by day, post by post. it's too damn late to make this wonderful metropolis of bubbling vibrant gameplay with a new player base and an overflow of activity. These players think they can make the Fortnite or Apex legends tier game by just getting rid of the "toxic people"

I've always been outspoken and speaking on things the way they are, popping on once or twice a week to see the old faces slowly disappear and the forums a ghostown of "state of atwar flamewars" or instantly deleted by mods or Brian.. 99.986% PlAYErS dOnT PoSt In ThE FoRuMs... yea ok

You can't have a player base the only activity is senseless political correctness for the sake of just speaking. You can have all the gameplay updates you want but nothing will improve if paying customers are physically getting ostracized by the very "staff" that was chosen to *help* the game.

Kind of a weird buisness model having outspoken volunteers driving away players for the sake of liberalism and a personal sense of altruism and *duty*... don't ya think?

Either appreciate what you have and try to work with it or watch it slowly fade to dust I'm going away now..

I wish this place the best but as they say around here looks like "my time is up"

Best of luck Dave with the challenge of "breaking even"

Im out this hoe too

This game is dead if the players are absent. We need to begin the process of rewriting the rules again and to create new checks on how a person can be muted/banned and what can be done to appeal it. We need to cease the endless permabans/permamutes, it's become a mockery when 90% of the active community cannot speak or play, and everyone else was driven off by this blatant use of power.

Technically, everything that has happened is perfectly reasonable going by the current rules; All of the people that are banned and muted have rightfully been done so. But this community isn't large enough to maintain this order of things; Most of our best, most active players are autistic trolls.

Off-Topic should be reserved for shitposting and anything not pertaining to AtWar, everywhere else the rules should be enforced per the status quo until we can re-analyze them and discuss as a community if anything needs changing. Permabans should be reserved only for special cases wherein a player has committed damage to the game or given a credible threat, otherwise the maximum ban time should be six months. To combat pillory and racist behavior, players should be advised to ignore problem individuals, and the ignore function should be revamped to include making quoted posts invisible and any other nonsense that slips through the cracks. Players that have been ignored by someone and are caught using an alt to further harass these players would be automatically banned per their six month record. Offensive shitposting should be allowed provided it does not harbor any sort of threats and is not blatantly racist/homophobic/etc in nature; The latter clause is hard to maintain, it would be better if there was a word filter setting that players could turn off for their viewing pleasure after seeing a warning.

In regards to players being banned for exploits, I still maintain as I told 4nic yesterday that these individuals that find these hacks shouldn't be banned, but rather enlisted in helping find more of them so they can be patched. If they refuse to do so, then you can talk about banning for six months. Whoever keeps DDoSing the site would be subject to a permaban under this idea as well, mind you. No idea if its Bugsbunny, the same dude who did it for years (Death needs friends?) or some other asshat wasting his time and money downing a fucking browser game full of autists, serbs, turks, and felons.

Finally, all players currently permabanned should retroactively be unbanned and put on probation provided the offenses they made do not register as credible threats or did serious damage to the game; Black Swans and Unleashed would be examples of individuals who would be put on probation, Bugsbunny (if he actually did Ddos the game) would be an example of someone who would stay banned. I say this not because Unleashed and Swans are acquaintances of mine, but because each of them contributed to keeping this game rolling when our previous staff couldn't do it, this applies to a lot of individuals.

Perhaps we could have certain players globally ignored by default during probation, meaning you would have to personally un-ignore them to speak with them. Probation could last between a week to three months depending on why they were banned.

Above all else: The first step in reinvigorating this game is pandering to those who have stuck it out this long, not turning them away. I think every individual who likes shitposting can understand the ethical and business reasons behind not wanting them to say dumb shit on the public forum, but I don't think they should be banned for it. I think my above suggestion is more than adequate enough to make everyone happy going forward; Perhaps we can make a locked shitposting forum next to offtopic that can only be accessed by problem individuals or anyone who wants in, since it seems using Discord is unfavorable by many people.

People got used to shittalking to admins and anyone they wanted feeling like they were entitled to somthing in this game for playing/helping ppl for x amount of years...
But newsflash , your just a player just like everyone else , ppl geting salty that a new admin came that isnt tolerating shit and implementing his rules more harshly which is entirly in his right are being fing cry babies.

Either follow the new admin rules and be respectfull to the owners or find another game , we are all grown ass men here lol., some of you guys are being so over dramatic ...

Napisao sirivann, 11.05.2019 at 14:10

...or find another game...

Well that's not what we want, now do we

Napisao Indurate, 11.05.2019 at 16:37

Napisao sirivann, 11.05.2019 at 14:10

...or find another game...

Well that's not what we want, now do we

Well thats how life is lol u dont like somthing owned by someone else u either move on or get emo about it.

Napisao sirivann, 11.05.2019 at 17:14

Well thats how life is lol u dont like somthing owned by someone else u either move on or get emo about it.

Yeah I agree. Atwar is one of the most lenient games I've seen towards trolls, racists etc. If this were another game, half the playerbase would have already been permabanned by now.

All too long, didn't read. Someone summarize in like 3 words?

Napisao DeepFriedUnicorn, 12.05.2019 at 12:49

All too long, didn't read. Someone summarize in like 3 words?

He's saying that people can no longer be blatantly offensive in the game, and that those people are mad that mods are actually enforcing the rules now.

Napisao Player 999, 12.05.2019 at 12:50

Napisao DeepFriedUnicorn, 12.05.2019 at 12:49

All too long, didn't read. Someone summarize in like 3 words?

He's saying that people can no longer be blatantly offensive in the game, and that those people are mad that mods are actually enforcing the rules now.

Thanks. So literally the shite people have been talking about for a good soild 6-7 years now, on this site.

Napisao sirivann, 11.05.2019 at 14:10

People got used to shittalking to admins and anyone they wanted feeling like they were entitled to somthing in this game for playing/helping ppl for x amount of years...
But newsflash , your just a player just like everyone else , ppl geting salty that a new admin came that isnt tolerating shit and implementing his rules more harshly which is entirly in his right are being fing cry babies.

Either follow the new admin rules and be respectfull to the owners or find another game , we are all grown ass men here lol., some of you guys are being so over dramatic ...

Stop being submissive siri. What we need is a revolution, and it must be communist

Napisao Augustus Caesar, 11.05.2019 at 11:10

Nothing has really changed, this is the same atwar as has always been. Moderators bullying the community and supporters doing nothing.

It's been a running theme since forever that the game is dying but in reality i think its just you are seeing less familiar faces around each day. If you want to see more competitive players rise then maybe try taking someone under your wing here and there or joining an active team of players. Heck maybe us "old timers" should go more out our way to chat and train newer players or introduce scenario, custom maps and even rp players to the comp scene.

Often the way you go out is just as important as the way you came in and living up to your legacy is an important part of leaving with your head held high.

be me
see new player
*big les grin*
destroy them in ww1
ask for rep
repeat

The moderation has always been overkill on this game, and some of the old players are real elitists/clowns, this game is sort of like Uber where it's not a profitable thing. I think that this game should be modeled on Wikipedia where any player can make adjustments to the game and so we can all fix it faster, and maybe have moderator elections (and impeachment if need be) so the old ones don't get too much power.

This has aged like fine wine my brother.

Do something now or hold your peace

When the upkeep begins costing more than the organic revenue, these god damn servers will turn off, and everything you've done for the past 8 years will flicker out of existence.

Instead of having this shitty PC culture, save this god damn game... or not I really don't care

Deuces

Napisao Player 999, 12.05.2019 at 12:50

Napisao DeepFriedUnicorn, 12.05.2019 at 12:49

All too long, didn't read. Someone summarize in like 3 words?

He's saying that people can no longer be blatantly offensive in the game, and that those people are mad that mods are actually enforcing the rules now.

Not true, but such games that do commit to harsh moderation have MILLIONS of players. The harsh moderation only comes AFTER they acquire millions of players. Early on, such games have Wild West moderation. This game has daily logs-in's in the hundreds of which the number has dropped to a third of what it was a few years ago. The game cannot afford to lose players and if you enjoy the game, you should want people to stick around no matter how 'offensive' you think they are. Your definition of 'offensive' is wildly different to mine. For years we have said everyone has an ignore function. Besides, according to your stats, you haven't played a game in 72 days, so the only reason you're here is out of some ideological and vindictive resentment to people who hold different worldviews.

Napisao Tik-Tok, 09.06.2019 at 11:43

Not true, but such games that do commit to harsh moderation have MILLIONS of players. The harsh moderation only comes AFTER they acquire millions of players. Early on, such games have Wild West moderation. This game has daily logs-in's in the hundreds of which the number has dropped to a third of what it was a few years ago. The game cannot afford to lose players and if you enjoy the game, you should want people to stick around no matter how 'offensive' you think they are. Your definition of 'offensive' is wildly different to mine. For years we have said everyone has an ignore function. Besides, according to your stats, you haven't played a game in 72 days, so the only reason you're here is out of some ideological and vindictive resentment to people who hold different worldviews.

Grand Emperor Tik-Tok rises from the dead to spread his gospel, couldn't agree more with this.

Napisao Tik-Tok, 09.06.2019 at 11:43

Napisao Player 999, 12.05.2019 at 12:50

Napisao DeepFriedUnicorn, 12.05.2019 at 12:49

All too long, didn't read. Someone summarize in like 3 words?

He's saying that people can no longer be blatantly offensive in the game, and that those people are mad that mods are actually enforcing the rules now.

Not true, but such games that do commit to harsh moderation have MILLIONS of players. The harsh moderation only comes AFTER they acquire millions of players. Early on, such games have Wild West moderation. This game has daily logs-in's in the hundreds of which the number has dropped to a third of what it was a few years ago. The game cannot afford to lose players and if you enjoy the game, you should want people to stick around no matter how 'offensive' you think they are. Your definition of 'offensive' is wildly different to mine. For years we have said everyone has an ignore function. Besides, according to your stats, you haven't played a game in 72 days, so the only reason you're here is out of some ideological and vindictive resentment to people who hold different worldviews.

Spoken like a true man of culture.

Napisao Garde, 09.06.2019 at 12:08

Napisao Tik-Tok, 09.06.2019 at 11:43

Not true, but such games that do commit to harsh moderation have MILLIONS of players. The harsh moderation only comes AFTER they acquire millions of players. Early on, such games have Wild West moderation. This game has daily logs-in's in the hundreds of which the number has dropped to a third of what it was a few years ago. The game cannot afford to lose players and if you enjoy the game, you should want people to stick around no matter how 'offensive' you think they are. Your definition of 'offensive' is wildly different to mine. For years we have said everyone has an ignore function. Besides, according to your stats, you haven't played a game in 72 days, so the only reason you're here is out of some ideological and vindictive resentment to people who hold different worldviews.

Grand Emperor Tik-Tok rises from the dead to spread his gospel, couldn't agree more with this.

Napisao Tik-Tok, 09.06.2019 at 11:43

Napisao Player 999, 12.05.2019 at 12:50

Napisao DeepFriedUnicorn, 12.05.2019 at 12:49

All too long, didn't read. Someone summarize in like 3 words?

He's saying that people can no longer be blatantly offensive in the game, and that those people are mad that mods are actually enforcing the rules now.

Not true, but such games that do commit to harsh moderation have MILLIONS of players. The harsh moderation only comes AFTER they acquire millions of players. Early on, such games have Wild West moderation. This game has daily logs-in's in the hundreds of which the number has dropped to a third of what it was a few years ago. The game cannot afford to lose players and if you enjoy the game, you should want people to stick around no matter how 'offensive' you think they are. Your definition of 'offensive' is wildly different to mine. For years we have said everyone has an ignore function. Besides, according to your stats, you haven't played a game in 72 days, so the only reason you're here is out of some ideological and vindictive resentment to people who hold different worldviews.

Glad someone shut him up.

Napisao Tik-Tok, 09.06.2019 at 11:43

Not true, but such games that do commit to harsh moderation have MILLIONS of players. The harsh moderation only comes AFTER they acquire millions of players. Early on, such games have Wild West moderation. This game has daily logs-in's in the hundreds of which the number has dropped to a third of what it was a few years ago. The game cannot afford to lose players and if you enjoy the game, you should want people to stick around no matter how 'offensive' you think they are. Your definition of 'offensive' is wildly different to mine. For years we have said everyone has an ignore function. Besides, according to your stats, you haven't played a game in 72 days, so the only reason you're here is out of some ideological and vindictive resentment to people who hold different worldviews.

And you haven't played for 835 days, so what does that say about you xD. Anyways I'm simply saying that blatantly racist and insulting posts shouldn't be allowed on Atwar. Removing those sorts of posts improves the game for all players except a small number of trolls. Atwar cannot afford to lose players, but not at the expense of driving new players away. Regardless, any moderation decisions are up to Dave and his mods. If someone wants to play any game, there are certain rules they must abide by. Being a decent person will in most cases not cause any problems. Not sure why some people have gotten triggered by this simple truth, they must love being racist trolls. I'm not calling you one, but there are a few people on this site who troll endlessly and get away with it every time.

Napisao Garde, 09.06.2019 at 12:08

Grand Emperor Tik-Tok rises from the dead to spread his gospel, couldn't agree more with this.

I think someone was trolling in a WW2 game (Tik-Tok's map) a few days ago and said that they couldn't be banned bc Tik-Tok has been gone for two years. Woe for them now lol

Napisao Player 999, 10.06.2019 at 09:32

Napisao Garde, 09.06.2019 at 12:08

Grand Emperor Tik-Tok rises from the dead to spread his gospel, couldn't agree more with this.

I think someone was trolling in a WW2 game (Tik-Tok's map) a few days ago and said that they couldn't be banned bc Tik-Tok has been gone for two years. Woe for them now lol

It was Floch he left 3 times turn 1

Napisao sirivann, 11.05.2019 at 14:10

People got used to shittalking to admins and anyone they wanted feeling like they were entitled to somthing in this game for playing/helping ppl for x amount of years...
But newsflash , your just a player just like everyone else , ppl geting salty that a new admin came that isnt tolerating shit and implementing his rules more harshly which is entirly in his right are being fing cry babies.

Either follow the new admin rules and be respectfull to the owners or find another game , we are all grown ass men here lol., some of you guys are being so over dramatic ...

Exactly. Every game has rules, this game isn't different

My bro sphinx was so wise and truthful...

I think the game is better than it has ever been

Napisao JUGERS2, 10.06.2019 at 09:34

Napisao Player 999, 10.06.2019 at 09:32

Napisao Garde, 09.06.2019 at 12:08

Grand Emperor Tik-Tok rises from the dead to spread his gospel, couldn't agree more with this.

I think someone was trolling in a WW2 game (Tik-Tok's map) a few days ago and said that they couldn't be banned bc Tik-Tok has been gone for two years. Woe for them now lol

It was Floch he left 3 times turn 1